tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post5040163399750320087..comments2024-02-21T05:25:15.214-05:00Comments on Views from Raven's Nest: A Hodge-Podge of Political StuffRavenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04996538460071167819noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-66035775909278540212008-10-05T10:43:00.000-04:002008-10-05T10:43:00.000-04:00I'm sitting here listening to Sarah Palin say that...I'm sitting here listening to Sarah Palin say that Joe Biden and Obama don't love their country, followed up on Face the Nation by someone defending those remarks. Obscene.<BR/><BR/>I have not heard this kind of viscious from the other side (specifically Biden and Obama) and certainly even now, none of that kind of disgusting remark. Biden and Obama have made efforts to discuss issues. Their ads may not be rich in substance but they offer some.<BR/><BR/>You have implied repeatedly that my remarks are hate speech. Pointing out the truth is not hate speech. It's pointing out genuine issues. I don't want Mrs. Joe Six Pack, inexperienced, fanatical and dishonest within earshot of the presidency. Her qualifications ARE an issue and a significant one. McCain's health is questonable and he is not a young man. Since he has consistently lied about the other side's platform, that too is an issue. To discuss it is not hate speech. Honesty is a HUGE HUGE HUGE issue for me. Temperament is a huge issue for me.<BR/><BR/>As I said in my post - the media could change some of this by actually offering in depth analysis instead of pap and repetition of campaign slogans.Ravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04996538460071167819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-30374396894442587152008-10-05T09:11:00.000-04:002008-10-05T09:11:00.000-04:00Wouldn't it really be nice if we had candidates an...Wouldn't it really be nice if we had candidates and supporters of candidates who used their air time and their blogs to tell us the good things about their candidate instead of the bad things of the opponents.<BR/>It would be so different and make so much more sense. <BR/>But it will never happen. Attack is much more satisfying and a heck of a lot more fun.Dr.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752941912945095736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-37264472625057632152008-10-04T22:23:00.000-04:002008-10-04T22:23:00.000-04:00Travis - I agree. I think part of the problem with...Travis - I agree. I think part of the problem with not getting information is the candidates but part of it is the media which simply doesn't seem to care about actually talking about things seriously or discussion the issues. I read something at HuffPo today about the Washington Post, I think, writing about how we don't have any details on the candidates tax policy - details are readily available if you look for them - and then not publishing any details. EXCEPT... in an article for children on page C-8 or some such thing. How sad is that?<BR/><BR/>I thought you were quite reasonable in your comment and had no need to apologize. Glad you expressed yourself.Ravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04996538460071167819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-8791885000067618552008-10-04T22:20:00.000-04:002008-10-04T22:20:00.000-04:00hi jeff - the PA airways have been absolutely swam...hi jeff - the PA airways have been absolutely swamped in ads for months now - and the worst kind... you know the ones with that smarmy kind of voice (if you don't know what I mean, check out the <A HREF="http://ravensviews.blogspot.com/2008/09/finding-humor-in-ugliness.html" REL="nofollow">SNL skit</A> I posted a week or so ago. They are really just like that. The ran the ones about Obama wanting to teach sex to six year olds, repeated stuff about how he's going to raise my taxes, lies about gun control... and lots of the "celebrity" ones too. It has been virtually endless and relentlessly ugly. I noticed in the past couple of days that they have started running very reasonable polite things, so ugly has apparently not worked as well as they expected. Oh - lots of maverick and "I said thanks but no thanks" too. Aggh.<BR/><BR/>Sorry. Didn't mean to rant. As in your Oregon ads, the PA candidates just smear each other. I wouldn't want to vote for any of them. Maybe that's what they count on. Not getting people to vote - getting us to be so repulsed that we don't vote at all. What a mess.Ravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04996538460071167819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-69840996145600465192008-10-04T19:52:00.000-04:002008-10-04T19:52:00.000-04:00I have written to my elected representatives more ...I have written to my elected representatives more during the last two years than I have in my adult lifetime.<BR/><BR/>One of the letters dealt specifically with the issue of candidates not telling us what they are for. I explained that I can't make up my mind based on what the candidates are telling me about each other. I want to know who they think THEY are, what they are going to do, how they are going to do it, and how they are going to pay for it.<BR/><BR/>I get so exhasperated by these ads that try to scare me about the other candidate. Please someone just tell me about yourself! If the candidates start telling us about what they are for, then voters can make up their own minds. <BR/><BR/>Instead, we are stuck with this crap slinging and fear politics telling us some made up story about why the other guy is bad. And then all the extremists come out and pepetuate the fear. Most of it is distortions or outright lies, and has nothing to do with anything.<BR/><BR/>Sorry...didn't mean to go on like that, but I'm reaching the end of my patience with it.Travis Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06192526507760146748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-29023575856145944962008-10-04T18:45:00.000-04:002008-10-04T18:45:00.000-04:00We have a Senate race in Oregon this year that is ...We have a Senate race in Oregon this year that is one of the ugliest displays of name bashing I can remember. Jeff Merkley and Gordon Smith have both flooded the airwaves with accusations about the other guy. I honestly couldn't tell you what either of them stand for, but I could go on and on about what they think of their opponent. Talk about frustrating!<BR/><BR/>I've only seen one add for McCain so far and that was just a night or two ago. It wasn't the bashing variety though. Maybe because this (Oregon) is typically a blue state, he decided not to go that route. Maybe it was a fluke. Either way, I hope it doesn't start up here too, with either of them.Jeff Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978944708950054312noreply@blogger.com