tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post8982260523962013773..comments2024-02-21T05:25:15.214-05:00Comments on Views from Raven's Nest: Seven Deadly Sins: Wrath/Anger Part 1Ravenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04996538460071167819noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-69352136499858956832009-03-26T20:47:00.000-04:002009-03-26T20:47:00.000-04:00"We become the thing we hate."rather, we ARE the t..."We become the thing we hate."<BR/><BR/>rather, we ARE the thing we hate...<BR/><BR/>We're also the thing's we love about others.<BR/><BR/>It's a learning opportunity,<BR/><BR/>It's how we bless our enemies...<BR/><BR/>There go I.<BR/><BR/>I did enjoy your blog...altonwoodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13130853912701238615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-8829383240332197972009-03-25T13:45:00.000-04:002009-03-25T13:45:00.000-04:00Hi Raven,I checked out your blog cos it was on Blo...Hi Raven,<BR/>I checked out your blog cos it was on Blogs of note. Love your post on wrath. I particularly identified with the bit that said you become the thing you hate... What a scary thought! Imagine waking up one day and discovering you have become George Bush! Besides ending my love affair with the mirror I'll be the most hated man on earth! Lets all make love not hate.Anujahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13885837262733054518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-59158871897122827392009-03-25T11:05:00.000-04:002009-03-25T11:05:00.000-04:00I happened upon your blog because I saw the "Raven...I happened upon your blog because I saw the "Raven" part, I have a Black Labrador named Raven and just popped in the other day to read it. I usually read stitching blogs but this was interesting to read, I'll have to say. I'm not really knowledgable to debate political stuff but I can tell from a view of a survivor of domestic violence that vengence and anger as well as control, is at the base of it and even if you leave the situtation for years, their hatefulness and vengance breeds into other situations. I find the best way to deal with people that want to hurt you is to walk away or stay and confront them in a loving manner. That is really not the easy way out either. This weekend someone did something to me that was very hateful. I just personally feel sorry for people like that because it will eventually make them sick on the inside to carry around such vengence. That's just my opinion though.......interesting blog.<BR/>JenniferJennifer Ann Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10827866781697673269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-53091271372790708782009-03-24T11:02:00.000-04:002009-03-24T11:02:00.000-04:00You are so right about vengeful anger…. That it do...You are so right about vengeful anger…. That it doesn’t accomplish anything but more vengeance an anger.<BR/><BR/>I worry about this idea because it is so cyclical.<BR/><BR/>Cyclical and devastating.Kaylia Metcalfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12527164450365029203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-28261150669446170992009-03-23T21:15:00.000-04:002009-03-23T21:15:00.000-04:00I appreciate your thoughts and I have to agree on ...I appreciate your thoughts and I have to agree on the part where you pointed out that vengeance is physically or emotionally violent. (emotionally for me..) <BR/>However, I still couldn't help but feel this heavy burden if I don't carry out my vengeance. Forgiving is very hard to do, especially when the person has caused you to lose some of your friends.<BR/>But yeah, I have learned that hate will only breed more hate and violence. When I thought about it, it is actually pointless to take a revenge on someone. True, you will get the feeling of satisfaction, but in the end, you will end up being hurt even more by the others.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04049552975397127047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-69566495100307451112009-03-23T18:32:00.000-04:002009-03-23T18:32:00.000-04:00I cannot disagree more with this post. Vengenance ...I cannot disagree more with this post. Vengenance in any manner does no good to anyone or anything.<BR/><BR/>I'm having a hard time believing what I'm reading in this post and comments. All I can say is before you lash out, as so many people have, President Bush has to deal with Congress and there are 535 of them that in his 8 years were elected to legislate. Are none of them to blame? <BR/><BR/>It doesn't seem to me either that Obama is off to a real good start. Nominees that don't pay taxes? A Sec. Of Treasury that new about the AIG bonuses? I could go on and on but I'm willing to give him a chance.<BR/><BR/>But to think that what an Administration has done isn't legal and they should go to trial is justified? I guess it's okay for me to have an extramarital affair while I'm in office. Or to get involved in Whitewater. Or leave a poor woman to drown in a car underneath the Chappaquiddick bridge. <BR/><BR/>You want someone to blame, blame the American electorate. We have too many that put their head in the sand and don't vote hence all the same fools get put back in office, their palms getting more grease on them and their pockets bulge with more money.<BR/><BR/>I suppose I should have held this for my blog but oh well. Just the way I am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-29548022895823407272009-03-23T18:27:00.000-04:002009-03-23T18:27:00.000-04:00I suffer from all seven myself. I'm always remindi...I suffer from all seven myself. I'm always reminding myself to get a grip.Nessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07779269921583131094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-50159598522246030442009-03-23T18:25:00.000-04:002009-03-23T18:25:00.000-04:00A timely topic, for sure. I have learned, personal...A timely topic, for sure. I have learned, personally, the hard way, that revenge is a dish best served cold. And yes, we do become the thing we hate, when we let anger possess us, like some evil demon. <BR/><BR/>I think that anger comes from intolerance, an unwillingness or inability to understand the actions which make us angry. Also, from a failure to accept, and a desire to change the unchangeable.roxanne s. sukhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424834424208118694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-27462777390200604902009-03-23T17:28:00.000-04:002009-03-23T17:28:00.000-04:00Hi, RavenFirstly, thank you for coming by my blog ...Hi, Raven<BR/><BR/>Firstly, thank you for coming by my blog and leaving such a kind comment. I really appreciated hearing from you. <BR/><BR/>Wrath certainly is the primary reason we inflict so many socially acceptable as well as unacceptable wrongs. Child abuse, partner abuse, capital punishment, war, torture. <BR/><BR/>When I stop to think about just how we have come to this place in time and continue to perpetuate misery based in vengeful acts, I'm stunned. Could the overwhelming majority of the world's people really want wrath that causes so much death, destruction and suffering? If not, why do we roll over so easily when our nations call our soldiers to war? <BR/><BR/>The human desire for vengeance has taken on such huge dimensions. To put it simply, where once it may have been "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth", it's now large scale bombing of the country that's deemed responsible for taking an eye out. It makes no sense. <BR/><BR/>Like you, I don't wish physical harm to Bush and Cheney or to anyone. But there is a difference between vengeance and justice. And if there is justice, these two and their conspirators should be charged with their crimes, tried and if found guilty, owe a massive apology to the American people and the entire world. <BR/><BR/>Some of the great points you make about wrath and vengeance brought to mind for me the issue of capital punishment more than once. There is where I see our society's vengeance sanctioned by a court system and endorsed by society's members. It just doesn't sit well with me.<BR/><BR/>Great post. Lots of food for thought. Thank you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296223961815248113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-26211006644300734412009-03-23T17:13:00.000-04:002009-03-23T17:13:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296223961815248113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-11125160066762271712009-03-23T17:02:00.000-04:002009-03-23T17:02:00.000-04:00Hi. I enjoyed reading your thoughts, and the comm...Hi. I enjoyed reading your thoughts, and the comments that followed. Thanks. A friend I knew in high school (he's on Facebook as Ravens, and when I saw your blog, I thought it was his). His blog is http://precision-blogging.blogspot.com, and I think you might enjoy reading it.robbieschlosser2https://www.blogger.com/profile/07035153087936294892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-8159036502393366162009-03-23T16:16:00.000-04:002009-03-23T16:16:00.000-04:00Wrath - a truly sinful act that - to me - is truly...Wrath - a truly sinful act that - to me - is truly unjustified in any actions. I have noticed that people will be wrathful towards other for even the simplest mistakes. What we do and how we conduct ourselves is either helpful or harmful to others. Both anger and love - in any form - is like a virus. At the opposites of each other they are equally as harmful/helpful. Although wrath/hate is more fast acting and love/joy is more affective over time. I guess my point is you should not bring wrath to another because it does more harm than good.<BR/><BR/>I do agree with Raven that the former administration should be held accountable for their unjust actions. And they should under close watch be made to fix what they have done.Danny Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12787306905225148753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36130350.post-55720547935015621042009-03-23T14:58:00.000-04:002009-03-23T14:58:00.000-04:00Okay, so you got it out of order. that doesn't ma...Okay, so you got it out of order. that doesn't make your point one bit less valid. I've wished all manner of ill will on the former occupants of the White House -- and those who supported them in lock step -- knowing full well that it accomplished nothing. And I <I>thought</I> that the last two elections (2006 and 2008) would have been ample notice that we'd had enough. And yet, right up until the last day the administration was trying to shove through another piece of damaging legislation.<BR/><BR/>Have things changed? On one level, yes they have. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems like the current residents of Washington are making some effort to keep things transparent rather than shrouded in mystery. It all seems a lot more "above board". Or maybe it only seems that way because I've become so used to the spewage of lies and half truths issuing from the White House and Capitol Hill.<BR/><BR/>But the ones who lost the last election have rallied -- and are rallying -- around a flag of what they consider "virtue". When in fact, what they're rallying around is a loss of ill-gotten privilege owed to them by the previous administration as payment for their support.<BR/><BR/>It pisses me off no end, and on my bad days... yeah, I want vengeance.Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03498213932233245032noreply@blogger.com